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WTF? Job Spam.

Posted On 2014-08-16 by dwirch
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Any tech professional worth their salt is in the habit of updating their resume every once in awhile.  I myself have a quarterly cycle; every three months, I update my info.  Unfortunately, this generates a fresh round of spam from questionable headhunters.

Warning: Rant Ahead

Now don't get me wrong.  I don't think all recruiters are dishonest or deceitful.  There are some really good ones out there that actually do care about doing a good job.  They will actually review resumes, match checkboxes, and generally do a good job of matching up potential talent with employers.

However, there is a growing trend of "recruiters" that appear less than trustworthy, and sometimes just downright shady. If you've been around for awhile, you'll know who I am talking about.

I don't usually name names when I write pieces like this. However, I am going to in this article. There are two that I have the most problem with: Artech and Pyramid Consulting. Yes, these guys just don't seem to have anything better to do than send email all day long. There are others, but these two are at the top of the list, in my opinion. 

I wonder if each "recruiter" gets a bonus, simply for the number of emails sent out. Seems to be so.  I've asked these people for years to take me out of their databases. I get promises of "yes, sure, we'll take you right out."  But the spam continues. 

Ahh, but you say, "Just mark their messages as spam, and you won't see any more!" Right. That will work for some of the more honest ones, but not the hardcore spammers.

For example, I used to get regular (2-3 per week) emails from Farmers Insurance. They wanted me to quit my IT career, for which I have invested 25 years in building, and become an insurance salesman. No matter how the message was worded, that is what it boiled down to.  I don't count Farmers Insurance as shady, merely annoying, since their spam is easily blocked with the mentioned method.

Mastech used to be on my shit list, but they have redeemed themselves in my eyes.  All it took was for me to find the private email addresses of their executives and stakeholders, and perform the ol' executive email carpet bomb. Magically, I received no more emails from Mastech after that.

Recruiters I count as shady and irrelevant, I do so for the following reasons:

  • Constantly send you job descriptions for jobs that have nothing to do with your experience, or the job is on the other side of the country.
  • Allegedly has a copy of you resume that was just posted, but wants another copy
  • Wants you to open a bank account to send your pay checks to
  • Want you to quit your current position to take a 3-day printer deployment engagement
  • Ignore requests for removal of your info from their systems
  • Bad reviews on sites such glassdoor, ripoffreport, and other sites
  • Can't use normal methods to block their spam.

Bottom Crawlers

So how do they get their information about you?  Most of these "agencies" utilize a scraper or crawler to pore recruiting sites such as dice, monster, linkedin, indeed, and others.  They scrape your information off the site, and think that gives them license to send you job listings for water buffalo tail cleaning positions in South America.

I've also noticed that most of these outfits utilize cloud-based or proxy-shrouded services such as jobdiva, which seems to be the scraper service that fattens its own database, and then sells it to these "recruiters".

Another thing that stands about these people from Artech and Pyramid Consulting, they all seem from India. Don't get me wrong; I have nothing against indians in general. But it seems to me that that every time I get an email or a phone call from someone who says his name is "Bob" or "Jim" with an east-indian accent so thick a chainsaw could not cut it, and wants to know if I am interested in a position as part time forklift operator in Baton Rouge, LA, well, that's just not trustworthy to me.

Not only have they most likely lied (names probably not "Bob"), but they haven't even reviewed the information in front of them. All it equates to is just going down the list of names and numbers in the phone book, and cold calling.  It doesn't work.  Unfortunately for us, it's much cheaper and faster to send 10,000 emails than make the same number of phone calls.

These people are not only giving recruiters a bad name, but they're doing the same for the indian people.  No matter where you are from, would you want your country to be known as the one that harbors spammers?

If I am wrong in any of this, please feel free to let me know below.


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Comments On This Post

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-08-16

Here is a good list of comments from people with first hand experience with some of these jokers:

http://blog.computer-fella.com/job-advise/indian-recruiters/

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-08-16

Here are some comments on an INDIAN website about Artech:

http://www.consumercomplaints.in/?search=Artech-infosystems

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-08-19

Add krgtech to the shit list. They sent me this job posting, saying it was an easy commute.

Job Title : Windows Admin
Location: Wilmington, DE
Duration: Long Terms
Start date: immediately

I live near Seattle, WA. How is Wilmington, DE an easy commute from Seattle, WA?

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-08-25

Got another email from krgtech. I've asked to be removed, and yet I get an email from Jeyakumar (jeyakumar@krgtech.com) telling me about a short term contract on the other side of the country.

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-08-26

Jeyakumar (jeyakumar@krgtech.com) --- this guy just does not give up. Got another one from him this morning.

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-08-26

Jeyakumar has told his buddy Sivakumar (sivakumar@krgtech.com) how to spam people, too.

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-09-05

Wow. Aflac has started with the same methods as Farmers Insurance. I received the following from Andre Laflamme today, wanting me to become a manager or management trainee:

My name is Andre Laflamme and I am the Regional Manager for Aflac here in Western Washington. The reason for my email is because I came across your resume on monster.com and you may be a possible candidate with our company. I am currently interviewing for Account Manager's as well as Manager Trainee's with Aflac. We are not only looking for individuals with Account Manager Backgrounds, but also people with diversified experience.

Where in my resume, which clearly technology-oriented, does it say I want to become the manager of an insurance office ?!?!

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-11-03

Enterprise Solutions Incorporated has joined to legion of job spammers. See the below URL for the details.

http://www.fortypoundhead.com/forum_viewpost.asp?pid=212

By: AnonymousCoward
Date: 2014-11-13



I have been contacted by all of these jokers. I recently attempted to get JobDiva to remove me from the their database. Take a look at their response. I am going to report them to the BBB and the FTC. I suggest you all do the same. This abuse of our email system has to stop.

>>>>>>
I wrote:
Please remove my personal information and resume from JobDiva database. I do not wish to receive any more communications from your company or your subscribers (recruiters).



>>>>>>>
Their response:


To be removed from a mail list, you need to contact the sender. We are not a job board or a holder of email lists. JobDiva is a software service that is utilized by staffing companies. JobDiva's role in the sent email is similar to Yahoo's mail or Hotmail - we have no influence over the content of what is being sent through the web site. So, please respond to the sender with your request to be removed.

The sender may have acquired your resume because you advertised it on a job board, or you may have applied to one of their jobs.

Please note that an "opt-out" link allowing you to request no further contact should be contained in the original email that you received.

If your request to be taken off the mail list is not granted, please let us know who the sender is and we will request their compliance.

Regards,

JobDiva, Inc.


>>>>>
I wrote:

This is not true. Your online presentation clearly mentions that: "JobDiva’s harvesters run silently in the background to create a rich database of candidates for your company to draw upon". Source : www.jobdiva.info

Jobdiva collected my email address (and probably my entire resume) and serve it to its clients for its own profits.

I do not accept your solution to unsubscribe from each company separately. Jobdiva retains my personal data and acts like a spammer, without giving me any chance to opt out efficiently from your unsolicited service.

Again, I'm asking you to remove my personal information from "JobDiva's harvesters" system.

>>>>>
Their response:

Hi Gustavo,
The harvesters are obtaining your resume from the job boards, to which our clients subscribe. The harvesters are not obtaining them from the web at large. When the harvesters obtain a resume from a job board for a client under that client’s subscription, the harvesters and JobDiva do not provide that resume to anyone other than that client, because it is obtained by them under their subscription and intent. The Harvester is automating what users who access job boards ordinarily do manually.

JobDiva is a very popular solution for staffing companies. So, your resume might have been obtained by many JobDiva clients from the job boards to which you subscribed, whether it was obtained manually or through the harvester.

We suggest that you opt out from these emails; this will stop them from reaching you. If you find the volume of emails to be unmanageable for opting out, it is easy to filter them. As a software solution, we cannot decide on behalf of the client to opt you out. This would be like telling Yahoo not to send you email from anyone who has a Yahoo email account. The two possible solutions would be to opt-out of these emails from individual clients, or to create a filter to junk.

We hope that these suggestions are helpful.

Regards,

JobDiva, Inc.

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-11-13

Thanks for your post Gustavo - these guys are clearly harvesting information and selling it to unscrupulous-type job spammers. And you're right; I think anyone that gets this type of spam needs to file the reports just as you describe.

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-11-13

Add another one to the list:

Saral Joseph
Technical Recruiter

VDart Incorporated
Phone: 678-720-3214
Email : saral@vdartinc.com

Spam him hard, ye bots o'fun.

By: dwirch
Date: 2014-11-13

and another one. These guys are on the job today!

Ankit Gandhi

Next Level Business Services, Inc.

An Oracle Recognized Partner

Fax: +1 (608) 646-8326 Ph No. - 904-685-2606
Email: ankit@nlbservices.com

YIM: ankitgandhi9195@yahoo.com

By: AnonymousCoward
Date: 2016-12-07

I was bombarding about six months because of  spamming email by jobdiva , unfortunately I didn't check the email inline to find the sender that's why it took me that long to figure it out because each time i was  only unsubscribing from senders website and it was totally useless . finally I found it by one of the recruiters, I called job diva twice until they removed my name from their screwed database. I am so unhappy with what they do without job seekers permission ESPECIALLY even if you unsubscribe from the sender website it would only unsubscribe you from jobdiva subscribers not the main job diva DB so you still receive bunch of emails on daily basis even if you have no resume in the net world. if I had time and that kind of money I would simply sue jobdiva Rat ass.


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